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	<title>Comments on: And What If They Are Cheating Pt. 2</title>
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		<title>By: pecan</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-71859</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I sit hear reading all of the many different comments my mind goes back to the day that i found out my husband cheated on me. I was devastated, angry and extremely hurt to say the least. I yelled , screamed and lashed out at him because even though I had busted him he still continued to lie. After finally having no choice but to admit that something was going on which he regarded as just a friendship I decided to forgive him and move on because I promised to love, honor, respect etc until do we part.Needless to say it has been 12 years and he is still messing with this same female. At this point in my life I have nothing but anger and hatred towards him and her. She knew about me ad continued to have this affair, I blame both of them and myself for allowing it to go on for so long. My children have lived through this nightmare and are all grown and indivdually harbor anamosity towards their father because of his affair. Like Aunt B said I am now weighing my options of what choices I have in moving on I feel the only way to be free of the anger and hurt is to be free of my husband . I am tired of arguing and the emopty promises that mean nothing I will never be able to trust him because my heart has been broken so many times.Hopefully I will be able to recover from this and trust another man in my future,right now I don&#039;t see that happening any time soon. I also agree that both men and women cheat so I&#039;m not just male bashing I am only speaking about my very own experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I sit hear reading all of the many different comments my mind goes back to the day that i found out my husband cheated on me. I was devastated, angry and extremely hurt to say the least. I yelled , screamed and lashed out at him because even though I had busted him he still continued to lie. After finally having no choice but to admit that something was going on which he regarded as just a friendship I decided to forgive him and move on because I promised to love, honor, respect etc until do we part.Needless to say it has been 12 years and he is still messing with this same female. At this point in my life I have nothing but anger and hatred towards him and her. She knew about me ad continued to have this affair, I blame both of them and myself for allowing it to go on for so long. My children have lived through this nightmare and are all grown and indivdually harbor anamosity towards their father because of his affair. Like Aunt B said I am now weighing my options of what choices I have in moving on I feel the only way to be free of the anger and hurt is to be free of my husband . I am tired of arguing and the emopty promises that mean nothing I will never be able to trust him because my heart has been broken so many times.Hopefully I will be able to recover from this and trust another man in my future,right now I don&#8217;t see that happening any time soon. I also agree that both men and women cheat so I&#8217;m not just male bashing I am only speaking about my very own experience.</p>
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		<title>By: babs</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-68868</link>
		<dc:creator>babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate cheaters....I have  one sitting in front of me typing away....always pretending that he is doing research for his new paper or whatever....but he usually looks for &quot;teen porn&quot;on the internet....he is 10 years my senior....I think he is a disgusting man.....since his daughter is 24 years old....and to be looking at porn with young people in it is dispeakable....he is a self obsessed ...who goggles himself atleast 50 times a day....after just having written one book he thinks he is famous.....the only people who may have read his book are the people whom he gave his book to....he does write well though.....but he is so fake....he wrote about how prisoner abuse is wrong in Iraq....but really he should write a book about how he abuses his wife and kids...how he lies all the time....how he always wants me to put up a &quot;happy family&quot; front in the presence of his bosses etc...I always pray to god to give me the courage to just walk out on my husband for a better life for my kids and me...maybe oneday I will get the courage from god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate cheaters&#8230;.I have  one sitting in front of me typing away&#8230;.always pretending that he is doing research for his new paper or whatever&#8230;.but he usually looks for &#8220;teen porn&#8221;on the internet&#8230;.he is 10 years my senior&#8230;.I think he is a disgusting man&#8230;..since his daughter is 24 years old&#8230;.and to be looking at porn with young people in it is dispeakable&#8230;.he is a self obsessed &#8230;who goggles himself atleast 50 times a day&#8230;.after just having written one book he thinks he is famous&#8230;..the only people who may have read his book are the people whom he gave his book to&#8230;.he does write well though&#8230;..but he is so fake&#8230;.he wrote about how prisoner abuse is wrong in Iraq&#8230;.but really he should write a book about how he abuses his wife and kids&#8230;how he lies all the time&#8230;.how he always wants me to put up a &#8220;happy family&#8221; front in the presence of his bosses etc&#8230;I always pray to god to give me the courage to just walk out on my husband for a better life for my kids and me&#8230;maybe oneday I will get the courage from god.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-68273</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 00:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been there done that. Cheaters cheat because they can...the onus is on the person being cheated on to either stay or move on. I moved on and I do have some good days and not so good days. I believe that I am worth more than someone else&#039;s door mat. Things would have been easier though if the people involved were more honest from the beginning. I look back and I see myself so very hurt and nothing anyone would say would make it better. Am thankful now that I could wake up and appreciate the good things about living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there done that. Cheaters cheat because they can&#8230;the onus is on the person being cheated on to either stay or move on. I moved on and I do have some good days and not so good days. I believe that I am worth more than someone else&#8217;s door mat. Things would have been easier though if the people involved were more honest from the beginning. I look back and I see myself so very hurt and nothing anyone would say would make it better. Am thankful now that I could wake up and appreciate the good things about living.</p>
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		<title>By: QiQi Lee</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-66008</link>
		<dc:creator>QiQi Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 01:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am concerned being online with a particular Canadian Guy who keeps wanting to exchange more pictures, talking about sexual issues, emails.  But I keep getting the notion he is already in a committed relationship and just looking for someone to past some time with or just play me because I am overseas.  He is planning to take a trip out to see me in China.  As you say, I constantly get a uncomfortable feeling in my stomach and making me feel that all he says to me is too good to be true.  I  do not want to be the home wrecker but I feel he has a relationship already or has a wife and kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am concerned being online with a particular Canadian Guy who keeps wanting to exchange more pictures, talking about sexual issues, emails.  But I keep getting the notion he is already in a committed relationship and just looking for someone to past some time with or just play me because I am overseas.  He is planning to take a trip out to see me in China.  As you say, I constantly get a uncomfortable feeling in my stomach and making me feel that all he says to me is too good to be true.  I  do not want to be the home wrecker but I feel he has a relationship already or has a wife and kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Anyanswers</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-65990</link>
		<dc:creator>Anyanswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Marshall nwa and RR for your responses. I do believe in god and I have tried occasionaly to ask for his help, and I do feel his love inside of me for a while. But I think my anger gets in the way and I don&#039;t maintain my prayers. However, I will try and pray more. As for RR I can only pray that our feeling of pain and betrayal will leave us before it consumes both our lives. I know you said you could not go into it, but you know something, I have never wrote on any form of chatroom before, but I came across this website and I just started to type. I felt a sense of release when I was writing, hence my long write up. It did help me and having you guys response makes me feel that I am not alone in this and someone impartial took the time out to read and answer me, so I can&#039;t be crazy. So I thank you with all my heart for your reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Marshall nwa and RR for your responses. I do believe in god and I have tried occasionaly to ask for his help, and I do feel his love inside of me for a while. But I think my anger gets in the way and I don&#8217;t maintain my prayers. However, I will try and pray more. As for RR I can only pray that our feeling of pain and betrayal will leave us before it consumes both our lives. I know you said you could not go into it, but you know something, I have never wrote on any form of chatroom before, but I came across this website and I just started to type. I felt a sense of release when I was writing, hence my long write up. It did help me and having you guys response makes me feel that I am not alone in this and someone impartial took the time out to read and answer me, so I can&#8217;t be crazy. So I thank you with all my heart for your reply.</p>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-65696</link>
		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyanswers, I feel the exact same way.  I totally know what you mean.  its been 8 months, and I still can&#039;t let it go.  The affair lasted two weeks, but I&#039;m still stuck.  I wish I could tell you more, but I&#039;ve been the same way ever since.  All I know is that I&#039;m tired of feeling miserable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyanswers, I feel the exact same way.  I totally know what you mean.  its been 8 months, and I still can&#8217;t let it go.  The affair lasted two weeks, but I&#8217;m still stuck.  I wish I could tell you more, but I&#8217;ve been the same way ever since.  All I know is that I&#8217;m tired of feeling miserable.</p>
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		<title>By: marshall nwa</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-65308</link>
		<dc:creator>marshall nwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when a trust has been broken its never easy to build another one.in response to the request put up by anyanswer,I know to err is human and to forgive is divine.I may not have much to say but if you are convinced  your husband has really changed,then ask God to help you forgive him,then get the past behind you,forgive him and enjoy your marraige.Just hand your marraige over to God I can guarantee him making it work out for you good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when a trust has been broken its never easy to build another one.in response to the request put up by anyanswer,I know to err is human and to forgive is divine.I may not have much to say but if you are convinced  your husband has really changed,then ask God to help you forgive him,then get the past behind you,forgive him and enjoy your marraige.Just hand your marraige over to God I can guarantee him making it work out for you good.</p>
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		<title>By: Anyanswers</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-64929</link>
		<dc:creator>Anyanswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found out that my husband was having an affair a year ago with a girl half his age, which is 46 ,  from work. The relationship had been going on for three years, I found out because he very cleverly bought a cell mobile phone, which was the exact model of his works mobile. With the high level of trust I gave to him he knew if I found it would not even look at it, until this particular morning when he left it by the kettle in the kitchen, while waiting for the kettle to boil something told me to pick up the phone and start to look at his in box. I gasped for air as I read text after text of I love you&#039;s arrangement for meeting at their hotel, meals out, thank you&#039;s for gifts and flowers etc. We have been together for 23 years and married for 17 and we have 2 children. Pain, anger, betrayal, hurt there are not enough words in a dictionary to discribe the way I felt. He begged me to try again and said how stupid he had been and how he knows now he was just acting out a school boy fantasy. On reflection he can see that he had risked loosing the best relationship he will ever have and the love of our children, for the sake of fulfilling his selfish sexual needs and the sense of pride he felt about his ability to attract and keep a girl of her age.  He justified it in his mind at the time, with various excuses like I didnt really want him. He also felt our sex life was boring and all I cared about was our children, my friends and my problems at work.
,So why am I still with him, because I don&#039;t trust my feelings right now, yes I know it sounds lame but its true, I am a person who always thinks things through and then go by feelings, which usually happens really quickly. But in this instance I cannot seem to come to any clear decision, in which I have to decide what is best for myself the kids and our relationship. My husband has committed to rebuilding my trust of him by letting me know where his going when he leaves the office, takes pictures of the places he has to visit for his work, he sends me emails of meeting which have been requested of the people he has to meet. He brings me visitors passes to the places he has visited. He takes the children to school every morning and comes home at 6.pm every evening. He wrote a letter to my mum, dad and sister to appologise for his behaviour and sends me poems by text most days.  He has fixed and bought things for the house which I have always wanted, but had constantly said we could afford it. All in all he is doing every possible thing to make this work. Our sex life improved for a while because I was determined to show him what he was missing. But I still feel hurt and numb inside and so Im stuck in this limbo. I do still love him, and there are days when memories of that feeling of love returns and we have a great family day out or spend quality time together. But I have really terrible mood swings now and he says they are what he is struggling to cope with, because we will have a beautiful day together and then we&#039;ll go to bed and I&#039;ll start with the questions and long discussions about the affair.      I would truly appreciate any feedback anyone has about my situation.  As you are outside my circle of family and friends who know the two of us, and maybe  women who are/or having the same experience I am in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found out that my husband was having an affair a year ago with a girl half his age, which is 46 ,  from work. The relationship had been going on for three years, I found out because he very cleverly bought a cell mobile phone, which was the exact model of his works mobile. With the high level of trust I gave to him he knew if I found it would not even look at it, until this particular morning when he left it by the kettle in the kitchen, while waiting for the kettle to boil something told me to pick up the phone and start to look at his in box. I gasped for air as I read text after text of I love you&#8217;s arrangement for meeting at their hotel, meals out, thank you&#8217;s for gifts and flowers etc. We have been together for 23 years and married for 17 and we have 2 children. Pain, anger, betrayal, hurt there are not enough words in a dictionary to discribe the way I felt. He begged me to try again and said how stupid he had been and how he knows now he was just acting out a school boy fantasy. On reflection he can see that he had risked loosing the best relationship he will ever have and the love of our children, for the sake of fulfilling his selfish sexual needs and the sense of pride he felt about his ability to attract and keep a girl of her age.  He justified it in his mind at the time, with various excuses like I didnt really want him. He also felt our sex life was boring and all I cared about was our children, my friends and my problems at work.<br />
,So why am I still with him, because I don&#8217;t trust my feelings right now, yes I know it sounds lame but its true, I am a person who always thinks things through and then go by feelings, which usually happens really quickly. But in this instance I cannot seem to come to any clear decision, in which I have to decide what is best for myself the kids and our relationship. My husband has committed to rebuilding my trust of him by letting me know where his going when he leaves the office, takes pictures of the places he has to visit for his work, he sends me emails of meeting which have been requested of the people he has to meet. He brings me visitors passes to the places he has visited. He takes the children to school every morning and comes home at 6.pm every evening. He wrote a letter to my mum, dad and sister to appologise for his behaviour and sends me poems by text most days.  He has fixed and bought things for the house which I have always wanted, but had constantly said we could afford it. All in all he is doing every possible thing to make this work. Our sex life improved for a while because I was determined to show him what he was missing. But I still feel hurt and numb inside and so Im stuck in this limbo. I do still love him, and there are days when memories of that feeling of love returns and we have a great family day out or spend quality time together. But I have really terrible mood swings now and he says they are what he is struggling to cope with, because we will have a beautiful day together and then we&#8217;ll go to bed and I&#8217;ll start with the questions and long discussions about the affair.      I would truly appreciate any feedback anyone has about my situation.  As you are outside my circle of family and friends who know the two of us, and maybe  women who are/or having the same experience I am in.</p>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-63957</link>
		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Itisntsoeasy.  I understand your point and I think you&#039;re right.  Although it&#039;s been hard, I&#039;ve come to the decision that I love him and want to be with him, but I don&#039;t want to be married to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Itisntsoeasy.  I understand your point and I think you&#8217;re right.  Although it&#8217;s been hard, I&#8217;ve come to the decision that I love him and want to be with him, but I don&#8217;t want to be married to him.</p>
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		<title>By: coldicymom</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-60836</link>
		<dc:creator>coldicymom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, been in this marriage for 26 years, with the most smart so ever guy, you read all the symptoms, you know when he lie, when he just came back from a visit, verbal abuse day after day, but the best he do he discredit me in front of my kids. Blame me for the little tiny things and make a big deal out of it.  His GOD without any mistakes, 

I rather die as to go on. time over. 
to try ? again again and again nope.....been there done that 100000000 times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, been in this marriage for 26 years, with the most smart so ever guy, you read all the symptoms, you know when he lie, when he just came back from a visit, verbal abuse day after day, but the best he do he discredit me in front of my kids. Blame me for the little tiny things and make a big deal out of it.  His GOD without any mistakes, </p>
<p>I rather die as to go on. time over.<br />
to try ? again again and again nope&#8230;..been there done that 100000000 times</p>
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		<title>By: Kokoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kokoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents have been married for 32 years, and although my had cheated on my Mom quite a few times earlier on in their marriage, but for him to do it again, and deny it over and over to her, to my siblings and I, is just unthinkable. Several times we have caught him on the phone with his mistress, who in fact is close to both my parents, her and her husband of 10 years. My dad works overseas and so does the evil mistress, while my Mom stays here at home with me. He comes home every year to us.

We confronted him twice already about this issue, yet he kept denying it. He loves my Mom and our family, and we do love him too, so we forgave him. And he promised my Mom to never more communicate with that evil woman. Btw, she cheated on her husband twice now.

Yet, just recently, my sister saw that my Dad called the woman and again, and my sister even saw my Dad&#039;s phone when the woman was calling! Again, my sister confronted him about it and he got mad at her for making an issue out of it again....as if it was my sister&#039;s fault that he got found out again!

This time, my Mom and I decided not to say a word about it. It has been a week since that incident, and my Dad hasn&#039;t even called my Mom yet to explain or whatsoever. It breaks my heart to see my Mom&#039;s pain and anguish :( I really don&#039;t know what to do or how to help her, I only know that God is able to bring out beauty from the ashes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents have been married for 32 years, and although my had cheated on my Mom quite a few times earlier on in their marriage, but for him to do it again, and deny it over and over to her, to my siblings and I, is just unthinkable. Several times we have caught him on the phone with his mistress, who in fact is close to both my parents, her and her husband of 10 years. My dad works overseas and so does the evil mistress, while my Mom stays here at home with me. He comes home every year to us.</p>
<p>We confronted him twice already about this issue, yet he kept denying it. He loves my Mom and our family, and we do love him too, so we forgave him. And he promised my Mom to never more communicate with that evil woman. Btw, she cheated on her husband twice now.</p>
<p>Yet, just recently, my sister saw that my Dad called the woman and again, and my sister even saw my Dad&#8217;s phone when the woman was calling! Again, my sister confronted him about it and he got mad at her for making an issue out of it again&#8230;.as if it was my sister&#8217;s fault that he got found out again!</p>
<p>This time, my Mom and I decided not to say a word about it. It has been a week since that incident, and my Dad hasn&#8217;t even called my Mom yet to explain or whatsoever. It breaks my heart to see my Mom&#8217;s pain and anguish <img src='http://blog.mamashealth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I really don&#8217;t know what to do or how to help her, I only know that God is able to bring out beauty from the ashes.</p>
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		<title>By: Itisntsoeasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itisntsoeasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anytime a person cheats on their spouse it is an indication of a deeper problem in the relationship. The problem may be solely with the cheater, or it can be a symptom of the physical, emotional, or financial stability in the relationship.. When a person asks, &quot;What should I do?&quot;, it really depends on the situation at the time, the character of the person cheating, and how you truly feel about the relationship.
In the case of Heather, she should have been out of the relationship a long time ago. The man does not love her, he loves that she allows him to do anything that he wants. He will fight hard to keep her, because he knows he may never find another woman crazy enough to let him get away with it.  
In the case of the person whose spouse had a moment of weakness when they were sick, you need to decide whether the relationship had signs prior to being sick. If you both had a bad year, maybe it is worth the attempt to fix. There is no one correct answer. 

I have never cheated on my wife, and don’t plan to start now. However, I can admit to having flirtatious conversations with other woman at work, or out and enjoying the attention that they paid to me. I could see where it could easily have gotten out of hand had I not had the fortitude to control myself. My wife doesn&#039;t look at me like that any longer. Quite frankly, she is not the woman I married. She thinks that she is, but never really cares to find out what I think. After 20+ years, she has pretty much taken me for granted. She treats outsiders with the greatest kindness and consideration. She then comes home and dumps all of her anxiety, fears, guilt, anger and frustrations on me. She assumes that it is my job as her husband to be her therapist. I don’t mean that she tells me what a bad day she has had. I mean that she just dumps her anger about everything to make herself feel better. People always tell me what a wonderful person my wife is and I believe she also thinks of herself that way. She has no clue how differently she treats me, even though I have told her. She doesn&#039;t know anything about the person that I see on a daily basis. 
So, imagine that I deal with that every day, then one day I am out somewhere and an attractive woman starts paying attention to me in ways that have long since been forgotten by my wife. Things could go wrong in a hurry. Everyone has a different &#039;breaking point&#039;. True, if I gave in to it, it would be my fault. I would be the cheater. Yet, could it have been avoided if the relationship I had was better?
It is important to understand that what may seem like a wonderful relationship to one person, may not be a view shared by the other. I don’t say this to justify the cheating, because I don’t think it is right. I say it to demonstrate that some of these situations could be corrected, or prevented with better understanding and hard work from both sides. There are a lot of factors that go into someone’s final decision to cheat and there isn’t any one answer to fix them all. Sometimes it is a complete lack of morals (are you reading this Heather?). Sometimes it is just a bad mistake at a bad time, when things were at their worst. The mistake may be corrected, with a lot of hard work and understanding. The bad morals is a lost cause. Move on.

Marriage is hard work. Many people have told us this, but few of us really understand what that means, especially when fiorst starting out. I believe that men and woman get married for completely different reasons. We both look at the relationship through our own eyes and don&#039;t really see the forest through the trees. Both sides need to work hard to do whatever they can for the other person in the relationship (and that doesn’t mean driving them to swingers clubs). If only one side is working hard at it, then it will NEVER work. Just don&#039;t ever assume that you are the one that is doing all the hard work.

This applies as much, if not more to the people that don&#039;t have (or know of) cheating spouses as to the ones who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime a person cheats on their spouse it is an indication of a deeper problem in the relationship. The problem may be solely with the cheater, or it can be a symptom of the physical, emotional, or financial stability in the relationship.. When a person asks, &#8220;What should I do?&#8221;, it really depends on the situation at the time, the character of the person cheating, and how you truly feel about the relationship.<br />
In the case of Heather, she should have been out of the relationship a long time ago. The man does not love her, he loves that she allows him to do anything that he wants. He will fight hard to keep her, because he knows he may never find another woman crazy enough to let him get away with it.<br />
In the case of the person whose spouse had a moment of weakness when they were sick, you need to decide whether the relationship had signs prior to being sick. If you both had a bad year, maybe it is worth the attempt to fix. There is no one correct answer. </p>
<p>I have never cheated on my wife, and don’t plan to start now. However, I can admit to having flirtatious conversations with other woman at work, or out and enjoying the attention that they paid to me. I could see where it could easily have gotten out of hand had I not had the fortitude to control myself. My wife doesn&#8217;t look at me like that any longer. Quite frankly, she is not the woman I married. She thinks that she is, but never really cares to find out what I think. After 20+ years, she has pretty much taken me for granted. She treats outsiders with the greatest kindness and consideration. She then comes home and dumps all of her anxiety, fears, guilt, anger and frustrations on me. She assumes that it is my job as her husband to be her therapist. I don’t mean that she tells me what a bad day she has had. I mean that she just dumps her anger about everything to make herself feel better. People always tell me what a wonderful person my wife is and I believe she also thinks of herself that way. She has no clue how differently she treats me, even though I have told her. She doesn&#8217;t know anything about the person that I see on a daily basis.<br />
So, imagine that I deal with that every day, then one day I am out somewhere and an attractive woman starts paying attention to me in ways that have long since been forgotten by my wife. Things could go wrong in a hurry. Everyone has a different &#8216;breaking point&#8217;. True, if I gave in to it, it would be my fault. I would be the cheater. Yet, could it have been avoided if the relationship I had was better?<br />
It is important to understand that what may seem like a wonderful relationship to one person, may not be a view shared by the other. I don’t say this to justify the cheating, because I don’t think it is right. I say it to demonstrate that some of these situations could be corrected, or prevented with better understanding and hard work from both sides. There are a lot of factors that go into someone’s final decision to cheat and there isn’t any one answer to fix them all. Sometimes it is a complete lack of morals (are you reading this Heather?). Sometimes it is just a bad mistake at a bad time, when things were at their worst. The mistake may be corrected, with a lot of hard work and understanding. The bad morals is a lost cause. Move on.</p>
<p>Marriage is hard work. Many people have told us this, but few of us really understand what that means, especially when fiorst starting out. I believe that men and woman get married for completely different reasons. We both look at the relationship through our own eyes and don&#8217;t really see the forest through the trees. Both sides need to work hard to do whatever they can for the other person in the relationship (and that doesn’t mean driving them to swingers clubs). If only one side is working hard at it, then it will NEVER work. Just don&#8217;t ever assume that you are the one that is doing all the hard work.</p>
<p>This applies as much, if not more to the people that don&#8217;t have (or know of) cheating spouses as to the ones who do.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-57725</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ex cheated on me and our marriage ended. This was after we had been married for 19 years. I was clueless, but after the divorce I heard from one of her very close relatives that she had cheated on me earlier during the marriage multiple times.

When my ex was in the affair that actually ended our marriage, I would not have known about it except she came down with a bad infection that was a form of an STD. She told he doctor that she got it from me and the doctor insisted that I be treated also. My ex made a very big point about how I needed to be treated for the STD that I had given her. Well, I don&#039;t know if it was a case of her thinking if she believed something hard enough it would be true, or what. But in fact, I did not lose my cool over the accusation --- I stayed cool and went and got professional advice. The advice was to hire a private investigator. Of course, within three days the investigator had the facts...she was cheating on me with a co-worker, and doing it very stupidly. The investigator stayed on the case for another week and compiled an entire notebook of evidence (photos, etc).

Then when I confronted her, of course she went ballistic, accusing me of (a) spying on her, (b) of cheating myself, and (c) of being such a poor husband that I forced her to have the affair. I simply did not want to be in the marriage anymore, but we had a child and I was worried about him. But I worried for nothing --- the divorce was the best thing that ever happened for the child and for me. 

Although I lived in a no-fault state, the evidence that the investigator compiled was more than sufficient for the court to decide I was the more stable parent, and so I was awarded physical custody of our child. (He saw his mother a lot.) In addition, as a result of putting the pressure of the failed marriage behind me, my career blossomed and I received a major promotion that resulted in a huge difference in the standard of living I could provide for my child. Finally, three years after the divorce was finalized I met the most perfect woman, truly the life partner I had prayed for. We have now been married for 13 exceptionally happy and fulfilling years. Our communication is fantastic, partly because I have learned from the unfortunate lessons of my first marriage.

Best of all, my son is now in a graduate program at a major Florida university and is serving as an intern for a Fortune 500 investment banking firm. He has a very bright future ahead of him and he maintains a very close and loving relationship with his mother, as well as with me and my wife. The divorce did not hurt him at all, from what I can tell, and may have helped him.

My whole point is to tell you that had my ex not cheated on me and had I not taken the aggressive role to find out about it, I might very well still be in that terrible marriage with that faithless partner. Instead, as a result of her affair, I was forced to take action, and that action saved the rest of my life. Maybe you might think it is unfortunate that it took her affair to wake me out of my slumber, but I am not second-guessing----I&#039;m continuing to move forward with my life, and I&#039;m thankful everyday for my current marriage and for the love of my wife and my son.

If you are angry or frustrated or trapped because of a faithless spouse, then perhaps you don&#039;t have a real marriage either. Consider using the affair as a catalyst for moving on, moving forward, saving the rest of your life. I did, and I am glad I did. As crazy as this sounds, the man who had an affair with my ex did me the best favor I have ever received!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ex cheated on me and our marriage ended. This was after we had been married for 19 years. I was clueless, but after the divorce I heard from one of her very close relatives that she had cheated on me earlier during the marriage multiple times.</p>
<p>When my ex was in the affair that actually ended our marriage, I would not have known about it except she came down with a bad infection that was a form of an STD. She told he doctor that she got it from me and the doctor insisted that I be treated also. My ex made a very big point about how I needed to be treated for the STD that I had given her. Well, I don&#8217;t know if it was a case of her thinking if she believed something hard enough it would be true, or what. But in fact, I did not lose my cool over the accusation &#8212; I stayed cool and went and got professional advice. The advice was to hire a private investigator. Of course, within three days the investigator had the facts&#8230;she was cheating on me with a co-worker, and doing it very stupidly. The investigator stayed on the case for another week and compiled an entire notebook of evidence (photos, etc).</p>
<p>Then when I confronted her, of course she went ballistic, accusing me of (a) spying on her, (b) of cheating myself, and (c) of being such a poor husband that I forced her to have the affair. I simply did not want to be in the marriage anymore, but we had a child and I was worried about him. But I worried for nothing &#8212; the divorce was the best thing that ever happened for the child and for me. </p>
<p>Although I lived in a no-fault state, the evidence that the investigator compiled was more than sufficient for the court to decide I was the more stable parent, and so I was awarded physical custody of our child. (He saw his mother a lot.) In addition, as a result of putting the pressure of the failed marriage behind me, my career blossomed and I received a major promotion that resulted in a huge difference in the standard of living I could provide for my child. Finally, three years after the divorce was finalized I met the most perfect woman, truly the life partner I had prayed for. We have now been married for 13 exceptionally happy and fulfilling years. Our communication is fantastic, partly because I have learned from the unfortunate lessons of my first marriage.</p>
<p>Best of all, my son is now in a graduate program at a major Florida university and is serving as an intern for a Fortune 500 investment banking firm. He has a very bright future ahead of him and he maintains a very close and loving relationship with his mother, as well as with me and my wife. The divorce did not hurt him at all, from what I can tell, and may have helped him.</p>
<p>My whole point is to tell you that had my ex not cheated on me and had I not taken the aggressive role to find out about it, I might very well still be in that terrible marriage with that faithless partner. Instead, as a result of her affair, I was forced to take action, and that action saved the rest of my life. Maybe you might think it is unfortunate that it took her affair to wake me out of my slumber, but I am not second-guessing&#8212;-I&#8217;m continuing to move forward with my life, and I&#8217;m thankful everyday for my current marriage and for the love of my wife and my son.</p>
<p>If you are angry or frustrated or trapped because of a faithless spouse, then perhaps you don&#8217;t have a real marriage either. Consider using the affair as a catalyst for moving on, moving forward, saving the rest of your life. I did, and I am glad I did. As crazy as this sounds, the man who had an affair with my ex did me the best favor I have ever received!!</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-56305</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was cheated on and took the woman in question back; I had known her for 10 years and been with her for two, and had also known that she had cheated on every man she&#039;d been with.  I was the only one she ever told, and she told me the morning after it happened, and that is the only reason I (eventually) took her back.  We made it work for a long while, I eventually was able to forgive her, and we had a lot of good years before it ended (for completely unrelated reasons).  So it can work out for some, but like everything else in life it&#039;s really based on the people involved, the situation, and how much you&#039;re willing to put up with.  This woman was (and still is) one of my closest friends, and at the time I was deeply and completely in love with her.  And her cheating did not make me doubt how much I knew she loved me.  There is a LOT going on in any individual person, cheater or not, and nothing in a relationship is ever remotely that black and white.

For those criticizing the women who are singling out men, try to understand where they are coming from--they are hurt and vulnerable.  I had a tough time for a while trying to believe that any woman could be faithful, which logically I knew was a stupid, stupid thing to believe but I couldn&#039;t help it.  It&#039;s a lot to expect of someone who has been emotionally crushed and betrayed to be understanding.  They&#039;ll get there eventually (and kudos to Taz, your response was patient and understanding).

RK--cheating is bad because it is cheating, it is breaking a bond you have with someone, a trust.  An open or poly relationship is different, as you are not actually cheating by having sex with someone else.  And, just like a monogamous relationship, they aren&#039;t for everyone.  At the end of the day whatever makes people happy is what they should do, but not at the expense of other people (i.e., do as thou will, just make sure anyone it could effect knows and is ok with their place in what you&#039;re doing).

For the record, I have been in several relationships.  I have never cheated on anyone.  That was the only time I was cheated on.  And before that, I had once been the &quot;other guy&quot; (the girl wasn&#039;t married, not that that makes it a ton better, but still).  I&#039;ve seen or been involved in a lot of sides of this issue.  I don&#039;t know if I would forgive again, but I do know I&#039;m glad I did then.

Hope this helps, and good luck to any of you going through this right now.  Stay or leave, just make sure you do it because it is what is best for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was cheated on and took the woman in question back; I had known her for 10 years and been with her for two, and had also known that she had cheated on every man she&#8217;d been with.  I was the only one she ever told, and she told me the morning after it happened, and that is the only reason I (eventually) took her back.  We made it work for a long while, I eventually was able to forgive her, and we had a lot of good years before it ended (for completely unrelated reasons).  So it can work out for some, but like everything else in life it&#8217;s really based on the people involved, the situation, and how much you&#8217;re willing to put up with.  This woman was (and still is) one of my closest friends, and at the time I was deeply and completely in love with her.  And her cheating did not make me doubt how much I knew she loved me.  There is a LOT going on in any individual person, cheater or not, and nothing in a relationship is ever remotely that black and white.</p>
<p>For those criticizing the women who are singling out men, try to understand where they are coming from&#8211;they are hurt and vulnerable.  I had a tough time for a while trying to believe that any woman could be faithful, which logically I knew was a stupid, stupid thing to believe but I couldn&#8217;t help it.  It&#8217;s a lot to expect of someone who has been emotionally crushed and betrayed to be understanding.  They&#8217;ll get there eventually (and kudos to Taz, your response was patient and understanding).</p>
<p>RK&#8211;cheating is bad because it is cheating, it is breaking a bond you have with someone, a trust.  An open or poly relationship is different, as you are not actually cheating by having sex with someone else.  And, just like a monogamous relationship, they aren&#8217;t for everyone.  At the end of the day whatever makes people happy is what they should do, but not at the expense of other people (i.e., do as thou will, just make sure anyone it could effect knows and is ok with their place in what you&#8217;re doing).</p>
<p>For the record, I have been in several relationships.  I have never cheated on anyone.  That was the only time I was cheated on.  And before that, I had once been the &#8220;other guy&#8221; (the girl wasn&#8217;t married, not that that makes it a ton better, but still).  I&#8217;ve seen or been involved in a lot of sides of this issue.  I don&#8217;t know if I would forgive again, but I do know I&#8217;m glad I did then.</p>
<p>Hope this helps, and good luck to any of you going through this right now.  Stay or leave, just make sure you do it because it is what is best for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda L.</title>
		<link>http://blog.mamashealth.com/2009/06/25/and-what-if-they-are-cheating-pt-2/#comment-56139</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found myself 4 years ago beginning to see little signs of my husband of 38 years cheating...phone calls from a woman and him hanging up immediately, late from work with lie after lie, lying about every topic we would talk about.  As he worked with computers at his work, he becam obsessive with our home computer.  He put every internet block on it to keep me from seeing what he was looking at (not like I couldn&#039;t guess).  I did find some porn pictures. When I finally had enough of the fighting over the computer and took it out of the house, he told me that I took his life away when the computer left.   ????????  To my great suprise one evening after intimacy, he got up and announced that &quot;he was getting out of here somehow&quot;.  I was so shocked that I didn&#039;t even respond, just started crying. A couple of weeks later he announced to me that &quot;we would never have sex together again&quot;.  Soon after, the abuse started.  Verbal abuse first, calling me every name he could think of...obnoxious, sick, stupid idiot, mental, rediculous, etc.  He would scream these things to me over and over.  He was trying to make me look like I was the mentally ill person to cover his own affair.  He even got our own daughter into believing that I was becoming a mentally ill person.  Soon both daughters would have nothing to do with me because he was trying to convince them that I was mentally ill and making up all this stuff in my head that was happening. Losing contact with my daughters broke my heart even worse than the abuse from my husband. Next came the physical abuse.  On our 40th anniversary, I was pushed down in the basement on the concrete floor and a rib was broken.  My husband got in his truck and drove away, leaving me lying on the floor.  I drove myself to the doctor&#039;s office.  He next began pushing me around knowing I had the broken rib (of which he said I broke my own rib to make him look bad). Police reports were made, but he never stayed in jail.  The law is surely not in favor of the woman in abuse cases!!!!  Emotional abuse was next, laughing at me when I would say things like Tough Cookies Don&#039;t Crumble, and I won&#039;t crumble no matter what you do to me.  He would have a very devilish laugh, one I had never before seen in him.  Next he began mentioning that maybe it wasn&#039;t a female he was with - maybe it was a male.  He then began hiding something of mine like my car keys making me think that I was so stupid to loose my own keys. He then hid my GPS unit from me, finding it two weeks later in my undrwear drawer.  The names he called me for that went on and on trying to make me think I had actually hid it in my own drawer.  He then got his mother involved by telling her some awful lies that I had been an adulterous wife for all our lives.  She lit into me like a wild beast accusing me of all this bizarre stuff which was obviously fed to her by my husband to try making me look like an even worse person.  She even told my grown daughters about these so called affairs.  I was also locked in the basement only to be screamed at to &quot;get out of this house&quot; when he finally let me out. He rammed into my car with his truck one day when he couldn&#039;t get out of the garage to speed away in an angry fit of rage.   After living through this for three years, I finally left home.  I could take no more.  A few months later, I filed for divorce.  I tried many, many times talking to my husband as to why all this was happening and did he want to get help for ourselves, etc.  but no response from him except calling me a rediculous, obnoxious stupid idiot and that I was the one that wanted this divorce, not him.

Folks, I am telling you all this because I was the last person on this earth to ever think my husband would do something like this.  We have been Christians for years and years and he was a deacon in our church.  He was the most mild mannered, calm, quiet, sweetest man there ever was.  I thought I had my knight in shining armour.  The divorce has just been finalized, 3 1/2 years after it all began.  I have found a new home and have a good job, but the reality is that even after all this, I miss him terribly and still love him very much,  but I don&#039;t know if I could ever trust him again. So far we have had no contact with each other.  I know what the Bible says about divorce, but I don&#039;t believe the Lord wants us, male or female, to live under such conditions of abuse. I feel very lonely, sad, angry, betrayed and hurt beyond measure.  I hate living alone and sometimes during my crying spells wonder if I did the right thing by leaving and filing for divorce.  The pain just seems unbearable at times.  I know I will have to be near my ex during holidays, birthdays, ect.  Will I ever feel comfortable around him or will I always be scared of him and totally broken hearted?  I am trying to learn forgiveness as God demands us to do, but boy is that hard-the mind just won&#039;t let it go.  Is it possible to completely forgive and forget the horror of this horrible situation?  Could someone give me some thoughts if I did the right thing and will forgiveness ever come?  Thank you !
9-1-2010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found myself 4 years ago beginning to see little signs of my husband of 38 years cheating&#8230;phone calls from a woman and him hanging up immediately, late from work with lie after lie, lying about every topic we would talk about.  As he worked with computers at his work, he becam obsessive with our home computer.  He put every internet block on it to keep me from seeing what he was looking at (not like I couldn&#8217;t guess).  I did find some porn pictures. When I finally had enough of the fighting over the computer and took it out of the house, he told me that I took his life away when the computer left.   ????????  To my great suprise one evening after intimacy, he got up and announced that &#8220;he was getting out of here somehow&#8221;.  I was so shocked that I didn&#8217;t even respond, just started crying. A couple of weeks later he announced to me that &#8220;we would never have sex together again&#8221;.  Soon after, the abuse started.  Verbal abuse first, calling me every name he could think of&#8230;obnoxious, sick, stupid idiot, mental, rediculous, etc.  He would scream these things to me over and over.  He was trying to make me look like I was the mentally ill person to cover his own affair.  He even got our own daughter into believing that I was becoming a mentally ill person.  Soon both daughters would have nothing to do with me because he was trying to convince them that I was mentally ill and making up all this stuff in my head that was happening. Losing contact with my daughters broke my heart even worse than the abuse from my husband. Next came the physical abuse.  On our 40th anniversary, I was pushed down in the basement on the concrete floor and a rib was broken.  My husband got in his truck and drove away, leaving me lying on the floor.  I drove myself to the doctor&#8217;s office.  He next began pushing me around knowing I had the broken rib (of which he said I broke my own rib to make him look bad). Police reports were made, but he never stayed in jail.  The law is surely not in favor of the woman in abuse cases!!!!  Emotional abuse was next, laughing at me when I would say things like Tough Cookies Don&#8217;t Crumble, and I won&#8217;t crumble no matter what you do to me.  He would have a very devilish laugh, one I had never before seen in him.  Next he began mentioning that maybe it wasn&#8217;t a female he was with &#8211; maybe it was a male.  He then began hiding something of mine like my car keys making me think that I was so stupid to loose my own keys. He then hid my GPS unit from me, finding it two weeks later in my undrwear drawer.  The names he called me for that went on and on trying to make me think I had actually hid it in my own drawer.  He then got his mother involved by telling her some awful lies that I had been an adulterous wife for all our lives.  She lit into me like a wild beast accusing me of all this bizarre stuff which was obviously fed to her by my husband to try making me look like an even worse person.  She even told my grown daughters about these so called affairs.  I was also locked in the basement only to be screamed at to &#8220;get out of this house&#8221; when he finally let me out. He rammed into my car with his truck one day when he couldn&#8217;t get out of the garage to speed away in an angry fit of rage.   After living through this for three years, I finally left home.  I could take no more.  A few months later, I filed for divorce.  I tried many, many times talking to my husband as to why all this was happening and did he want to get help for ourselves, etc.  but no response from him except calling me a rediculous, obnoxious stupid idiot and that I was the one that wanted this divorce, not him.</p>
<p>Folks, I am telling you all this because I was the last person on this earth to ever think my husband would do something like this.  We have been Christians for years and years and he was a deacon in our church.  He was the most mild mannered, calm, quiet, sweetest man there ever was.  I thought I had my knight in shining armour.  The divorce has just been finalized, 3 1/2 years after it all began.  I have found a new home and have a good job, but the reality is that even after all this, I miss him terribly and still love him very much,  but I don&#8217;t know if I could ever trust him again. So far we have had no contact with each other.  I know what the Bible says about divorce, but I don&#8217;t believe the Lord wants us, male or female, to live under such conditions of abuse. I feel very lonely, sad, angry, betrayed and hurt beyond measure.  I hate living alone and sometimes during my crying spells wonder if I did the right thing by leaving and filing for divorce.  The pain just seems unbearable at times.  I know I will have to be near my ex during holidays, birthdays, ect.  Will I ever feel comfortable around him or will I always be scared of him and totally broken hearted?  I am trying to learn forgiveness as God demands us to do, but boy is that hard-the mind just won&#8217;t let it go.  Is it possible to completely forgive and forget the horror of this horrible situation?  Could someone give me some thoughts if I did the right thing and will forgiveness ever come?  Thank you !<br />
9-1-2010</p>
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